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Siltä näyttäisi.

http://www.sro.fi/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=990&Itemid=659

"Ja Jumala loi tieteen... -sarjan kirjat ovat monella tavalla poikkeuksellisia. Uskosta ja tieteestä ei ole puhumassa uskonnon ammattilainen, joka samalla puhuisi myös nykytieteen puolesta – tai niin kuin monesti, sitä vastaan."

"Sen sijaan sarjan kirjojen tarkoituksena on antaa asiantuntijoiden itse puhua omista aloistaan, teologi teologina, tieteilijä tieteilijänä, joskin kumpikin on positiivisesti kiinnostunut toisesta."

"Kirjasarjaa voidaan luonnehtia myös vielä yhdellä poikkeuksellisella piirteellä. Sarjan kirjoissa ei luovuteta siitä näkökulmasta, että kristillinen usko on nykymaailmassakin ja tieteen huimien edistysaskelten keskelläkin yhä täysin relevanttia. Mutta kirjoissa ei liioin ryhdytä tekemään tieteen vallankumousta, keksitä uutta tiedettä tai »uskovien tiedettä», ikään kuin kristinuskon relevanttius sellaista tarvitsisi."

Kävin eräässä kristillisessä kirjakaupassa yksi päivä, ja huomasin tuon ensimmäisen osan nimeltä Kosmologia. Selasin sitä läpi, ja yritin etsiä siitä tyypillistä kretsukamaa, mutta en löytänyt. Kirja oli tiedettä. Sellaista mitä oppikirjoihin on kirjoitettu. Kirjassa näkyy myös usko vahvasti, mutta ei tieteen kustannuksella, niin kun ei tiedekään uskon kustannuksella. Kirjassa tuodaan esille miten ne täydentävät toisiaan. Kirjasarja näytti lähinnä siltä että sillä yritetään saada tiedettä ja uskoa saman katon alle sulassa sovussa, ilman että aletaan kertomaan toiselle mitä sen tulisi olla. Kirjassa oli syvää molemminpuolista kunnioitusta ja... ystävyyttä.

Tämän kirjan myötä näin valoa tunnelin päässä. Ehkä tässä vielä joku päivä todella ymmärrämme toisiamme.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100216101159.htm

"Color receptor organization in the chicken retina greatly exceeds that seen in most other retinas and certainly that in most mammalian retinas."

Ja evoluutiohistoriassa piilee todennäköisesti selitys tähänkin ilmiöön:

"Birds likely owe their superior color vision to not having spent a period of evolutionary history in the dark, according to Corbo. Birds, reptiles and mammals are all descended from a common ancestor, but during the age of the dinosaurs, most mammals became nocturnal for millions of years."

"Birds, now widely believed to be descendants of dinosaurs, never spent a similar period living mostly in darkness. As a result, birds have more types of cones than mammals."

""The human retina has cones sensitive to red, blue and green wavelengths," Corbo explains. "Avian retinas also have a cone that can detect violet wavelengths, including some ultraviolet, and a specialized receptor called a double cone that we believe helps them detect motion."

In addition, most avian cones have a specialized structure that Corbo compares to "cellular sunglasses": a lens-like drop of oil within the cone that is pigmented to filter out all but a particular range of light. Researchers used these drops to map the location of the different types of cones on the chicken retina. They found that the different types of cones were evenly distributed throughout the retina, but two cones of the same type were never located next to each other."

Tästä havainnosta ja tutkimuksesta on todennäköisesti apua lääketieteelle.

"Many of the inherited conditions that cause blindness in humans affect cones and rods, and it will be interesting to see if what we learn of the organization of the chicken's retina will help us better understand and repair such problems in the human eye," Corbo says.

Funding from the National Eye Institute supported this research.

GuttersniperUutta blogiaLuonut: GuttersniperSunnuntai 25.10.2009 19:19

Tässä TalkOrigins-sivuston suomennosprojektia koskeva blogini.
Ensimmäinen osa on valmis, monen monta vielä edessä.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090902133629.htm

"This is the first genetic link to the evolution of two, rather than one, pumping chamber in the heart, which is a key event in the evolution of becoming warm-blooded,"

"The different reptiles offer a sort of continuum from three to four chambers. By examining them, we learned a lot about how the human heart chambers normally form."
Matelijat ovat siitä mielenkiintoisia olentoja, että monella niistä on oikeastaan kolmen ja neljän kammion välimuoto. http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/images/30_3a.jpg
Eri matelijoiden sydän muistuttaa enemmän kolme-, ja toisten nelikammioista. Näin siis eri matelijoista saadaan selville tämän muutostapahtuman kriittiset vaiheet.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2009/09/090902133629-large.jpg

DaealisQuotemineLuonut: DaealisKeskiviikko 12.08.2009 18:32

"If Yokeup is an example of what jesus would do most of the time it's no wonder they nailed that cunt to a plank of wood" - Richard "the Dick" Coughlan 666
En ole tainnut vielä käsitellä tätä aihetta.
Paneudun nyt siis siihen miten tästä: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Homo_ergaster.jpg/500px-Homo_ergaster.jpg
Saadaan tällainen: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/404063706_dc9274fc47.jpg
Ja niin että voimme luottaa sen olevan aito.

Poliisi käyttää tätä palaneiden tai muuten tunnistamattomien uhrien tunnistamiseen. Se tunnetaan nimella oikeusantropologia: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oikeusantropologia Nyt kuitenkin keskityn sen yhteen osa-alueeseen joka on kasvojen rekonstruktio.
Tässä ensin videoita miten se käytännössä tapahtuu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF1cVAb0J2Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_HaJT7OVIQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9V_6HKHZTM

Ja miten voimme olla varmoja että se toimii? Koska nämä uhrit oikeasti tunnistetaan:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cb/KTT2D.jpg/256px-KTT2D.jpg
Tämä voidaan vahvistaa jälkeenpäin vertaamalla luun DNA:ta lähisukulaisten DNA:han.
Eli mekanismi on niin tarkka, että siitä voi tunnistaa jopa yksilön!

Niinpä tätä samaa tekniikkaa on lainattu historiantutkimukseen. Tutankhamon on ehkä tunnetuin tapaus.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/05/0510_051005_tutsface.html
Ja vielä kauemmas historiaan järjestyksessä: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/hominids.html

Homo Neanderthalis: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00486/aacaveman_486051a.jpg
Homo Heidelbergensis: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Homo_heidelbergensis_(10233446).jpg
Homo Erectus: http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/4086/450pxhomoerectus2062937td8.jpg
Homo Rudolfensis: http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/troufs/anth1602/images/H_rudolfensis_200.jpeg
Homo Ergaster: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1327/657464686_dfa991ed38.jpg
Homo Habilis: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/That70sPhoto/450px-Homo_habilis.jpg
A. Africanus: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Austrolopithecus_africanus.jpg

http://www.filigris.com/products/docflex_xml/xsddoc/examples/html/HumanEvolution/schemas/HumanEvolution_xsd/doc-files/evolution.gif

Lisää aiheesta:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_facial_reconstruction
http://www.forensicsbydiana.com/

Ihmisen evoluutiosta selkokielellä: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqDQVKoLyTU

KayinThe Art of deception.Luonut: KayinMaanantai 03.08.2009 17:30

Ai että... tässä taas yksi esimerkki siitä kuinka uskovia ihmisiä sumuttaa sellaiset henkilöt, joihin nämä uskovat luottavat. Pitäisi naulata seinään tuollaiset huijarit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwL7adlDNcw

Tuossa videossa pitäisi olla siis olla todisteita että on fyysisesti mahdotonta että dinosauruksista on tullut lintuja. Mutta koko videossa ei puhuta siitä. Siinä puhutaan että matelijan keuhkoista ei voi tulla lintujen keukoja.

"It is impossible for dinosaurs or reptiles to become birds".

Matelija, ja dinosaurus on aivan kaksi eri asiaa. Matelijalla on kolmikammioinen sydän, dinosauruksilla ja linnuilla nelikammioinen. Matelijalla on luuydin, dinosauruksilla ja linnuilla on ontot luut. Matelija on vaihtolämpöinen, höyhenelliset dinosaurukset ja linnut tasalämpöisiä.
Katsoja pidetään siinä uskossa että dinosauruksilla on matelijan keuhkot. Videossa verrataan käärmeen ja kalkkunan keuhkoja.

Missään vaiheessa ei mainittu, ettei dinosauruksilla ollut matelijan keuhkoja. Niillä oli jo silloin ilmapussihengitys, eli lintujen kanssa samanlainen hengitysjärjestelmä.

http://www.nsf.gov/news/mmg/media/images/dino_bird_h.jpg
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/08/dinosaur_lungs.php
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0003303

Koko videon ajan katsojalle vihjataan että matelijoilla ja dinosauruksilla on samanlaiset keuhkot (suora valhe), ja verrataan niitä lintujen hengitykseen. Miten tuollainen (käsittääkseni KRISTILLINEN) ohjelma voi valehdella ihmisille noin suoraan? Eikö väärä todistus ole synti?

Dinosauruksesta linnuksi on todella todella lyhyt matka, sillä ne ovat lähes identtisiä. Laitan nyt vielä tähän perään sen yhtäläisyyslistan. Kayin#blogcomments

DaealisWhat's dis then?Luonut: DaealisTorstai 18.06.2009 14:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdgAMUrDExE

"Tohtori" mies puhelee evoluutiosta radiossa, kun mukaan soittaa evoluutiosta joitain perusasioita tietävä heppunen ja pistää tohtorin tiukille.

Ei tainnut olla biologia miehen vahva puoli, mutta miksi helvetissä idiootti sitten on puhumassa siitä radiossa?

GuttersniperOivallista satiiria!Luonut: GuttersniperMaanantai 30.03.2009 16:00

50 Reasons I Reject Evolution

1.) Because I donÂ’t like the idea that we came from apesÂ… despite that humans are categorically defined and classified as apes.

2.) Because IÂ’m too **** and/or lazy to open a **** book or turn on the Discovery Science Channel.

3.) Because if I canÂ’t immediately understand how something works, then it must be bullshit.

4.) Because I donÂ’t care that literally 99.9% of all biologists accept evolution as the unifying theory of biology.

5.) Because I prefer the idea that a (insert god of choice) went ALLA-KADABRA-ZAM MOTHAH-FUCKAHS!!!

6.) Because I canÂ’t get it through my thick logic-proof skull that evolution refers ONLY to the process of speciation, not to abiogenesis, or planet formation, or big bang cosmology, or whether God exists, or where they buried Jimmy Hoffa, or why the sky is blue, or how many licks it takes to get to the center of a **** Tootsie Pop.

7.) Because the fossil record doesnÂ’t comprise the remains of every single living thing that ever existed on this 4.5 billion year old planet, even though fossilization is a rare process that only occurs under very specific circumstances.

8.) Because science has yet to produce any transitional speciesÂ… except for the magnitudinous numbers of them found in the fossil record which donÂ’t count becauseÂ… I uh, OOH LOOK! A SHINY OBJECT!!! *runs away*

9.) Because I know nothing about Darwin except that he had a funny beard.

10.) Because the theory of evolution (which, according to scientists, perfectly explains the richness and diversity of life on Earth) contradicts biblical literalismÂ… ya know, flat Earth with a firmament that keeps out the water, talking snakes, people rising from the dead, bats are birds, flamey talking bushes, virgin births, food appearing out of nowhere, massive bodies of water turning into bloodÂ… etc etc.

11.) Because I think the word “theory” actually means: “random stabs in the dark” when it really means: "an explanation of certain phenomena that is well-supported by a large body of facts and often unifies similarly well-supported hypotheses" i.e. atomic theory, gravitational theory, germ theory, cell theory, some-people-are-dumb-motherfuckers-theory, etc.

12.) Because the fact that science is self-correcting annoys me. Most of my other beliefs are rigidly fixed and uncorrectable.

13.) Because I am under the severely mistaken impression that evolution implies someone in my very recent ancestry was a chimp.

14.) Because everything appears designed to my mind which was expertly tuned by nature to perceive design, probably as a survival mechanism.

15.) Because some secretly fabulous closet-dwelling televangelist (who unironically preaches hate towards gays) told me that evolution is SatanÂ’s way of leading me away from God.

16.) Because that same guy (who was also caught snorting blow off a male hookerÂ’s shiny naked ass) told me that God planted those fossils to test my faith.

17.) Because IÂ’m 100% correct about everything 100% of the time and there is 0% chance that some snooty Oxford educated scientist with numerous honorary doctorates could possibly know something that I donÂ’t.

18.) Because I donÂ’t know that fossils are found in sedimentary strata corresponding to their age as one would expect if evolution were true.

19.) Because I don’t understand why, if we share common ancestry with chimps, there are still chimps. And when someone with more than three brain cells in their head inevitably replies: “for the same reason Americans share common ancestry with Brits but there are still Brits, I can’t follow the logic. It’s just too big a leap. Who am I, Evil Knievel?

20.) Because my mom dropped me on my head when I was a baby.

21.) Multiple times.

22.) On purpose.

23.) Because the idea that life evolved naturally over billions of years is infinitely less believable than the idea that an 800 year old man crammed two of every species into a giant wooden boat when the entire planet flooded, an event for which there is absolutely no geological evidence whatsoever and also makes no **** sense at all.

24.) Because Jesus totally rode around on a **** t-rex. HeÂ’s just that badassed. And also, did you know that t-rexes were vegetarians? Ken Ham says so and I believe it.

25.) Because I don’t realize that saying “microevolution is possible but macroevolution isn’t” is as **** as saying “I can pick my nose for one second but I cannot pick it for 10 seconds.”

26.) Because the education system failed me miserably.

27.) Â…and then took a big wet dump on my face.

28.) Because I think that knowing how nature works magically obliterates all of its beauty.

29.) Because I didnÂ’t know that evolution has been tested and observed in laboratories.

30.) Because when confronted with that, I refuse to believe it. ItÂ’s obviously a scientific conspiracy aimed at turning everyone on the planet into atheists... even though evolution says nothing about god's nature nor whether he, she, it, or they exist.

31.) Because IÂ’m too **** to realize that Social Darwinism has nothing to do with evolution and is actually a pseudo-scientific bastardization that real science largely rejects.

32.) Because the planet and all the life on it was designed for humansÂ… kinda like how the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NY was designed specifically for the dust-bunnies that may accumulate on the floors.

33.) Because I donÂ’t realize that if we actually found croco-ducks in the fossil record, it would falsify evolution.

34.) Because plenty of respectable people like Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and Mike Huckabee (who are not scientists) donÂ’t accept evolution, and that somehow validates my opinion.

35.) Because my mother didnÂ’t know not to drink while she was pregnant. She also didnÂ’t know not to repeatedly throw herself down a flight of stairs in an attempt to undo the accident of screwing someone who voted for Bush both times.

36.) Because I don’t know that “irreducible complexity” has been debunked a frazillion times by a frazillion different people and is no more credible an argument than “NEEN-er NEEN-er NEEN-er, I’m right and you’re wrong.”

37.) Because I have never seen a duck evolve into a cat over night, despite the fact that such a thing would be contrary to all known scientific disciplines.

38.) Because I have no imagination, learning is too much effort, I donÂ’t like proven facts, change scares me, and I think deoxyribonucleic acid is something IÂ’m supposed to clean my bathroom floors with.

39.) Because evolution means that I absolutely MUST reject everything else I know, abandon all my beliefs, and start aping around my house like a **** monkey. OOOh-ooohh-ooohohh -OOOOOOHHHHHH!!!!!

40.) Because I havenÂ’t put my cave on the market and moved into the 21st century yet. IÂ’m waiting for the cave market to rebound from the recent financial meltdown.

41.) Because I donÂ’t know what an atavism is and if you told me, I still wouldn't believe it. Too weird.

42.) Because I donÂ’t know that evolution explains methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus and also provides the answer in preventing it from turning into a superbug and killing massive numbers of people.

43.) Because I donÂ’t know that evolution is routinely used in medicine to diagnose and treat certain illnesses such as genetic ailments, bacterial infections, and viral infections.

44.) Because I believe there is a strong comparison between designed inanimate objects such as buildings, paintings, and watches (which we know were pieced together from identifiable components by human beings) and living organisms (which reproduce with genetic variation under the effects of environmental attrition).

45.) Because I see no significant similarities between humans and apes. *scratches my ass-crack then smells my fingers*

46.) Because I think IÂ’m too special to have been crafted by any natural process and the entire planet, solar system, galaxy, and universe were created with me especially in mind.

47.) Because I unquestioningly swallow the ignorant anti-science bullshit spewed directly from the fraudulent **** asses of people like Ken Ham, Ted Haggard, Fred Phelps, and Kent Hovind.

48.) Because IÂ’m a freethinker and freethinking really means ignoring anything that contradicts what I already believe.

49.) Because I donÂ’t know what confirmation bias is.

50.) Because despite the fact that in all my years of life, I have never seen any magic, I still believe magic is the answer to anything I donÂ’t immediately comprehend.

Ladies and gentlemen, I rest my case. Quod erat demonstrandum, I **** win. Take that you EVILutionists!